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-n -n -n Unknown Speaker 0:01 I'm interviewing Daisy MurphyUnknown Speaker 0:14 It's March the 19th 1994 We're in Caretta West Virginia this being done for the Kentucky historical societyUnknown Speaker 0:32 if you would just tell us who your GrandpaUnknown Speaker 0:35 Grandpa grandparents were,Unknown Speaker 0:37 you know, I don't really remember all that.Unknown Speaker 0:41 What that was what she could youUnknown Speaker 0:43 know my I know my mother's was Jim's articles and Jane Jim and Jane's articles Xia Ark que le s German Jain circles Z our KayleeUnknown Speaker 1:02 and you remember when they moved in to West Virginia or where they came from?Unknown Speaker 1:06 No, I don't doubtUnknown Speaker 1:10 your you remember your father's parents?Unknown Speaker 1:13 know No, I really don't know.Unknown Speaker 1:17 When when and where do you remember your What was your mother's name and your father's?Unknown Speaker 1:23 My mother's name was me Catherine and my father was William Alderson. Oh Stevens.Unknown Speaker 1:32 William alders. Alderson, Stevens.Unknown Speaker 1:35 Okay. And where was he from?Unknown Speaker 1:39 Wayne County, Wayne County.Unknown Speaker 1:42 And you remember when he was born?Unknown Speaker 1:47 No, I don't. We went to the cemetery and took pictures, all this stuff. And I still don't remember.Unknown Speaker 1:56 Do you remember about when they moved into McDowell County?Unknown Speaker 2:00 They didn't live in McDowell County. Oh, no. We moved to Logan County went off just a little tiny girl. And I was practically raised in Logan County. All over. We've lived in several different places. And LoganUnknown Speaker 2:20 and your husband was a coal miner. Right. What was his name? Jackson Murphy. Jackson Murphy. And so your maintenance within Stevens?Unknown Speaker 2:32 Stevens. Team Ste less.Unknown Speaker 2:40 So you were in your race to the Covance what code camp wasUnknown Speaker 2:51 mostly around Logan? Just different places around Logan. Reveal in Nolan and Gotcha. Okay, this many I can't remember all because we moved ever changes the moon. Well, what?Unknown Speaker 3:06 What year? Were you born?Unknown Speaker 3:08 1916 1916. SoUnknown Speaker 3:11 you grew up in the cornfields and in the 20s? What was life like in the 20s? Was your dad was a coal miner? Yeah. And were they still using views? IUnknown Speaker 3:25 think so. I know, it was pretty rough.Unknown Speaker 3:28 It was pretty rough. And what was what was what was it like, growing up? You grew up in the coal camps?Unknown Speaker 3:37 Well, we moved around so much, I wouldn't get used one school to we'd have to move and change schools again. So not really.Unknown Speaker 3:52 So you move Why did youUnknown Speaker 3:54 move around so much? As soon as you lost your job? He had to move.Unknown Speaker 3:58 Okay. So was there a particular reason? Did he lose his job for union activities orUnknown Speaker 4:03 for well, they wasn't a union online thatUnknown Speaker 4:08 they were just it was just the ups and downs. Right. Just go to another golf camp. Right. Okay.Unknown Speaker 4:18 So, so you move you remember, move it around a lot. Oh, yeah. And did you Did y'all finally set land and settled somewhere?Unknown Speaker 4:26 Not left. I'm married. Okay.Unknown Speaker 4:30 3419 34. Right. SoUnknown Speaker 4:33 you were 18. Right. And he wasn't he married his Jackson Murphy. And how old was he when heUnknown Speaker 4:43 was 18. And he was 29. And I believeUnknown Speaker 4:47 he was David already? Yeah. Was that his first marriage? Yeah. First time, right. And so thenUnknown Speaker 4:54 how many children we had passed, and their names wereUnknown Speaker 4:59 bill. Jim, surely Phyllis Beatty JoeUnknown Speaker 5:04 and they all graduated from high schoolUnknown Speaker 5:07 no just one graduate high school and in my two to my daughters got later on when they finished their GED and all that.Unknown Speaker 5:19 So what was the highest grade you went to? Sixth sixth grade and then what are you working on? He got out of school up untilUnknown Speaker 5:27 now. Now at home just home air andUnknown Speaker 5:32 how many brothers and sistersUnknown Speaker 5:34 Well, I had just seven brothers and four sisters and what were their see must one sister was McCormack and one was span over and one was row and one was justice.Unknown Speaker 5:54 Those are the first names last names told that was orUnknown Speaker 5:57 when they got married or older first, you may not have to name all a lot. And um, y'all was left out all lamb. Yeah. Let's see. There's Scott. JF Jennings, Cecil, Lodge. There's one more boy. And then the girls will say, Murray and may Alice Murthy. And see the other boy can you help me any story? Huh? Oh, Ernest. That's my baby breath.Unknown Speaker 6:46 Yeah, they are living and stay in West Virginia.Unknown Speaker 6:49 They move on. They moved out.Unknown Speaker 6:52 What they? Do they just die of old age or?Unknown Speaker 6:56 No, they had different things wrong with them. Yeah.Unknown Speaker 7:02 Okay, so you grew? You got married? And what year was it?Unknown Speaker 7:07 3434 and started raising your family. So what was it like right in the middle of depression? Yeah. And your husband was a coal miner.Unknown Speaker 7:15 Did you have a job? And oh, yeah, you have a job due to depression. Well, pretty much okay. So.Unknown Speaker 7:21 So what was it like raising your family during the during the 30s and the 40s.Unknown Speaker 7:27 While we was not too bad, we always had cold and little somebody. Sometimes it might not been too much, but it worked for the same company now for Pete moved around tooUnknown Speaker 7:43 much as your father. No. So where were some of the places that you live? Why was after you were married?Unknown Speaker 7:52 We just stayed around. I prevailed till we come to make Nalin. 40 No, in 3037 I believe we come to McDowell.Unknown Speaker 8:09 Okay, so you've been here ever since right? In the same view, and that wasUnknown Speaker 8:19 it out? Well, my Pokestops address is painful, but I live around a ridge from here to Bradshaw. Okay,Unknown Speaker 8:29 so So you had some hard times but oh, yeah, it wasn't. You always had something to eat and yeah, right. Did in the places where you live? Did you have indoor loving near the end water?Unknown Speaker 8:42 Not for alone? Took a long time to get Yeah, right. After you. And how long did your husband work in the mind? He retired in 66. Then he died in 84.Unknown Speaker 8:58 And how old was he whenUnknown Speaker 8:59 he died? 79.Unknown Speaker 9:02 So we had about 20 was his health good or bad orUnknown Speaker 9:05 he died from black lung? He had 42 years humansUnknown Speaker 9:09 were two years strong union hole Yeah. AndUnknown Speaker 9:19 and now you have this as a result, so you've got the helm card and you've gotUnknown Speaker 9:27 to do a pretty goodUnknown Speaker 9:29 social security flusher. Bless you're getting done yet. Right. What do you have to do after you retired to jog itUnknown Speaker 9:40 to go places and turn now not to match by that time? He was getting pretty feeble. So you just kind of stuck around? Yeah, just stayed home. We always raised garden and everything like that.Unknown Speaker 9:54 Worked in his yard right?Unknown Speaker 10:00 So how do you feelUnknown Speaker 10:01 about the future? You know? And how things are going to go here all all your kids and none I'm still living.Unknown Speaker 10:17 I have one daughter lives on Virginia sad about a 30 minute drive from me. And I have one in Chicago Illinois he retired from a TNT that six years ago and I have a son in Seattle Washington well, he don't work now. He used to work in the paper factory, but he just does his own thing. Now he builds jeeps and things like that. And I have a daughter in South Bend Indiana. And I have a daughter in FloridaUnknown Speaker 10:55 What do you see for for downtown or you see down the road or you're gonna stay hereUnknown Speaker 11:01 oh yeah I thought he's gonna move me off when my husband died and lay right upon here beside him because he's worried about upon heal from my houseUnknown Speaker 11:18 so what do you see for the future?Unknown Speaker 11:23 I just don't know. Stay I don't I would like to see it get betterUnknown Speaker 11:32 economically Yeah.Unknown Speaker 11:34 What do you think it would take to make it betterUnknown Speaker 11:40 off since so many man's shut down their family just not much for him to do I don't really know.Unknown Speaker 11:55 Do you have to sum it all up all of your life here in the mountains and coalfields what would you say it's put it all into one big statement what do you got to get anything real happy about real sad about real man about to leave us with one parting thoughtUnknown Speaker 12:23 well I guess just stay where I'm at. Keep my health and everythingUnknown Speaker 12:30 safe where you can keep your health until which my health not beenUnknown Speaker 12:35 too good and last year that's about all I thinkUnknown Speaker 12:42 well, let me ask you this you're gonna have had some funny things happen raising all these kids Oh yeah. What tell us some stories tell their stories about things that happened was your husband a big church man or was he you know heUnknown Speaker 13:06 was even a big grandkid.Unknown Speaker 13:19 Oh, out oh no not really what do you just Katie Yeah, daddy buddy mo tertile time and so labor singing this song. Oh went down. Oh shipper sign Yeah, well, he was signing right along with him and he didn't know for a long time that they've slammed the old ship was on and he was thinking they were saying the old shit to themUnknown Speaker 13:58 I don't know use the country slightlyUnknown Speaker 14:11 Did you know that that now that we mentioned that going to church and things like that got into that too much but it funerals did they did they still have people in their houses here? So it's pretty What was your husband when WhenUnknown Speaker 14:32 did he I let him finish.Unknown Speaker 14:35 But it's it's pretty common still for people to the last person that did that in my home was 1964 family member Warren died. And that was the first funeral that my or the first body thatUnknown Speaker 14:49 I've seen. She was pretty shaken up by the you know, to go to the that was the first time she'd gone to someone's home and did Uh, so but that's still pretty common here. What would you say? A third of the panels are showing the house? Yeah. Well, do they? Do they live out at home? Or do theyUnknown Speaker 15:09 funeral home? Does it mean they move, and then they'll bringUnknown Speaker 15:13 the casket overnight. And so what usually goes where the people come to the funeral home that night before the funeral and everybody comes if they do that at people's housesUnknown Speaker 15:30 they bring, bring all kinds of foodUnknown Speaker 15:33 and then the next day they'll have the funeral worried that at the church are in the house.Unknown Speaker 15:40 And they have the very lightweight counterweight on theUnknown Speaker 15:46 left block or to either in the morning or the night. Okay, I was just, I wasn't familiar with that. So things are still done a lot at home. Well, do they have? Do they have what you call? I know that since there's so many Irish around here, do they have weights or? Or? Yeah. When people come to the house to play music do they haveUnknown Speaker 16:09 no,Unknown Speaker 16:10 it's not thatUnknown Speaker 16:13 they have just charged groups buying and or selling.Unknown Speaker 16:16 And that's usually okay. Well tell us some more good story. Do you have any anything really funny about that? You got to remember about the kids growing up orUnknown Speaker 16:28 Yeah. When I was in the hospital and was starting up out, and the nurse was talking to him and everything and trying to keep me steel, and she asked me to tell something that I had done with the kids. And I hadn't follow this for years but my daughter told me later she was one that I slept a breath out of her when she was four she was so they they didn't know how I could remember to tell that. As long as it had been that. And Lee passed it on. I don't know what caused me tell itUnknown Speaker 17:11 Have you got any other stories that you things that you remember growing up with? Girls on Monday either?Unknown Speaker 17:23 Oh, no. Oh lordy. She's got a story made Alliott and they get up and have these little plays and they her daughter tails it's my husband he had these old turkeys. And there's one of them was real mean I couldn't even get the girls to go get water as well we got wire in the house because this old Turkey would jump onto him every time they get out. So I was going to milk one day and he was following me and so I was kind of mad when Dave and I went to milk and when the old Turkey come up I worked him in the head with a bucket he went rolled over the hill and he laid out for two weeks before he died and my husband he never didn't know what killed himUnknown Speaker 18:13 Why didn't you tell himUnknown Speaker 18:15 well I didn't mean to tell him right away because he would made me cooked and you didn't want to I didn't want to cook itUnknown Speaker 18:23 but you're making a killing right the bucket killing was merely an accident right it's really a case of manslaughter rather than murder. But what happened when heUnknown Speaker 18:36 died is cooking noteUnknown Speaker 18:40 he doesn't want to do theUnknown Speaker 18:41 cooking No. He'd been laid out for about two weeks before he died you know what no cookingUnknown Speaker 18:50 What if he had died immediately would you know? Well, you got to hear the stories about the girls going out on dates or funny thingsUnknown Speaker 19:02 that girls not didn't get to go on dates too much. Okay, that I went with. Right? Right. Just to movie or something like that.Unknown Speaker 19:17 But you got to chaperone right. procedureUnknown Speaker 19:30 she did. Well, she didn't know she didn't know butUnknown Speaker 19:38 what about the boys? Were they good boys?Unknown Speaker 19:40 Oh yeah, they were good boys.Unknown Speaker 19:45 They were. They were me.Unknown Speaker 19:48 My kids first everybody will tell you my kids was good kids. When my boys was old enough to work in gardens they got paid 50 cents a day for working in the garden just right I work, they go work yeah. But now they both left home when they were about 16. And they first went to plumb so high and worked on shoe factory. Then they went from Lark to Western Artaud, Chicago and worked in the Western Electric till they went to the army and stayed dark. Couple years I believe my youngest son stayed three years. And when they come out our then my youngest son, he went to Seattle. And that's where he met early married. And my oldest son, he just stayed with the Western Electric and that's retired fromUnknown Speaker 20:40 so he had a good job with me,Unknown Speaker 20:42 right? 30 yearsUnknown Speaker 20:50 Well, hey, you see when you said your husband was a great demand, was it a was a was he was he what you'd call a social drinker? Or did he drink a lot?Unknown Speaker 21:05 Well, I'd say he drank a lotUnknown Speaker 21:11 when saying he'd say he was saying he was and where would he would he? I guess one of the one of the questions I'm trying to get into here is one of the problems that we keep hearing people talk about in the coal fields is perhaps alcoholism. Would you say that your husband was anUnknown Speaker 21:31 alcohol cause so he quit drinking 10 year for it out so weUnknown Speaker 21:37 did and he was he was not abusive. No. He would just drink he did. Okay. All right. Well, I guess that's pretty much the end of the interview and I thank you for your time and thank you for the bounce it upUnknown Speaker 22:04 right don't put the end what is itUnknown Speaker 22:11 what's the original name of the title?Unknown Speaker 22:13 Oh ship designUnknown Speaker 22:22 and of course I'll remember the other will ship from Jack and hopefully we did a little literature a lot of did that supplement his income I mean did you just say well the having trouble with the law because what was it the first time he did he put that downUnknown Speaker 23:12 that's not graceful Jack never was cocked to Donna with a low offer no boy is he back in the mountains rightUnknown Speaker 23:33 now my water boxes droppedUnknown Speaker 23:41 years feeling brother was allowed to kill my brother Tommy and he will take sugaring on my back load later that never will necessarily wrapping my head it was always fun wait bomber said he didn't know well I was gonnaUnknown Speaker 24:12 check it out yeahUnknown Speaker 24:16 I do they keep it in pretty wellUnknown Speaker 24:18 pretty much I know me and Phil's went down to like suffer to him when down in our oil field blow aids Oh house and we went down or take suffer to them and as soon as this alcohol starts run that you know you have to weed that down. But Jack does start to safe along when it first started coming out. Yeah, it's pure hell.Unknown Speaker 24:44 You run so many jobs back. In you mark.Unknown Speaker 24:53 Which ones appear we canUnknown Speaker 24:57 call it shake it is the bee's knees. Shape the big on top if it's if it makes right they should be flattering up or if it's too weak you'll be alone and stuff like this too weak at the moment so we'll try and figure out how we got to spring apparel girls too because just last week but they stillUnknown Speaker 25:36 work that's okay we're done. HelloUnknown Speaker 25:38 We'reTranscribed by https://otter.ai