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Thanks for the already good documentation. It helps with the most common administration tasks for this plugin. It should be enough for most users, but for more advanced users it lacks documentation of the permission prioritization and what effects the priority calculation.
Example
For permission debugging it's very important to understand which permissions are higher weighted than others.
For example: What is the priority list here for Testuser1 at Server1 in World1:
USER: Testuser1
test.a with TRUE for GLOBAL ⁽¹⁾
test.* with FALSE for Server1.World1 ⁽²⁾
test{a-c} with TRUE for Server1 ⁽³⁾
group.rang1 (PRIMARY GROUP) [LEVEL: 30] ⁽⁴⁾
group.rang2 [LEVEL: 10] ⁽⁵⁾
RANG: group.rang1
weight.30
test.a with TRUE for GLOBAL ⁽⁶⁾
* with FALSE for Server1.(World1|World2) ⁽⁷⁾
test{b-c} with TRUE for Server1 ⁽⁸⁾
RANG: group.rang2
weight.10
test.(a|d) with TRUE for (Server1|Server2) ⁽⁹⁾
test.* with TRUE for GLOBAL ⁽¹⁰⁾
group.rang3 [LEVEL: 20] ⁽¹¹⁾
RANG: group.rang3
weight.20
test.* with TRUE for Server1.World1 ⁽¹²⁾
test.a with FALSE for GLOBAL ⁽¹³⁾
test with FALSE for GLOBAL ⁽¹⁴⁾
It's hard (or for me: impossible) to say how the plugin would apply the permissions in the current context, without testing it out first. Of course, that is an extreme example, but it helps to understand how hard the analysis of permission problems can be, especially with the amount of different configuration settings, player contexts and everything else that can affect the calculation.
In this case, I defined the following configuration options:
Usage of BungeeCord: Yes
primary-group-calculation: parents-by-weight
inheritance-traversal-algorithm: depth-first-pre-order (I'm not sure if it's important. Does it only have a performance impact?)
include-global: true
include-global-world: true
apply-global-groups: true
apply-global-world-groups: true
meta-value-selection-default: inheritance (I'm not sure how it affects the result.)
apply-wildcards: true
apply-regex: true
apply-shorthand: true
apply-bukkit-child-permissions: true (It may be only important for the plugin.yml of a plugin. So it has no effect in this case.)
apply-bukkit-default-permissions: true (It may be only important for the plugin.yml of a plugin. So it has no effect in this case.)
Priority (what we know)
So basically, I know the follow priorities, based on the configuration and the wiki article on https://luckperms.net/wiki/Advanced-Setup as well as my own experience with Minecraft permission systems, especially with LuckPerms:
PLAYER permission > GROUP permission
GLOBAL > SERVER > WORLD
test.* > test (because it is more detailed)
test.a > test.* (because it is more detailed)
test.a.* > test.* (because it is more detailed)
positive permission [TRUE] > negative permission [FALSE] (older version of LP had an option for this apply-default-negated-permissions-before-wildcards)
group wights: weight.30 > weight.20 > weight.10
temporary permission > non-temporary permission
temporary permission for 1 hour > non-temporary permission for 1 day
The article https://luckperms.net/wiki/Advanced-Setup is a good documentation, but it doesn't describe the order of the checks. What happens if I combine two or more of these points (for example: temporary GLOBAL permission for 1 hour vs. temporary PLAYER permission for 1 day)?
I think they need improved descriptions: Is max-homes an example-permission like max-homes.<number> or a meta value like a prefix / expiration time? Maybe first write a definition of meta value and a link to https://luckperms.net/wiki/Meta-Commands or similar would be useful.
I think you should reference the player.addAttachment(); method in the description to make it more clear what you mean with "are able to add their own »permission attachment« to players".
Ideas for the wiki articles
A documentation of the calculation process as text or diagram.
Splitting the https://luckperms.net/wiki/Advanced-Setup article in two sites: Advanced-Setup (= Shorthand Permissions, Regex, Wildcards) and Permission Calculation and sort both to "Features".
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The documentation of the calculation process / the priorities should be done by one of the LuckPerms core team members. It should be really accurate and precise.
Thanks for the already good documentation. It helps with the most common administration tasks for this plugin. It should be enough for most users, but for more advanced users it lacks documentation of the permission prioritization and what effects the priority calculation.
Example
For permission debugging it's very important to understand which permissions are higher weighted than others.
For example: What is the priority list here for
Testuser1
atServer1
inWorld1
:USER:
Testuser1
test.a
withTRUE
for GLOBAL ⁽¹⁾test.*
withFALSE
for Server1.World1 ⁽²⁾test{a-c}
withTRUE
for Server1 ⁽³⁾group.rang1
(PRIMARY GROUP) [LEVEL: 30] ⁽⁴⁾group.rang2
[LEVEL: 10] ⁽⁵⁾RANG:
group.rang1
weight.30
test.a
withTRUE
for GLOBAL ⁽⁶⁾*
withFALSE
for Server1.(World1|World2) ⁽⁷⁾test{b-c}
withTRUE
for Server1 ⁽⁸⁾RANG:
group.rang2
weight.10
test.(a|d)
withTRUE
for (Server1|Server2) ⁽⁹⁾test.*
withTRUE
for GLOBAL ⁽¹⁰⁾group.rang3
[LEVEL: 20] ⁽¹¹⁾RANG:
group.rang3
weight.20
test.*
withTRUE
for Server1.World1 ⁽¹²⁾test.a
withFALSE
for GLOBAL ⁽¹³⁾test
withFALSE
for GLOBAL ⁽¹⁴⁾It's hard (or for me: impossible) to say how the plugin would apply the permissions in the current context, without testing it out first. Of course, that is an extreme example, but it helps to understand how hard the analysis of permission problems can be, especially with the amount of different configuration settings, player contexts and everything else that can affect the calculation.
In this case, I defined the following configuration options:
primary-group-calculation: parents-by-weight
inheritance-traversal-algorithm: depth-first-pre-order
(I'm not sure if it's important. Does it only have a performance impact?)include-global: true
include-global-world: true
apply-global-groups: true
apply-global-world-groups: true
meta-value-selection-default: inheritance
(I'm not sure how it affects the result.)apply-wildcards: true
apply-regex: true
apply-shorthand: true
apply-bukkit-child-permissions: true
(It may be only important for theplugin.yml
of a plugin. So it has no effect in this case.)apply-bukkit-default-permissions: true
(It may be only important for theplugin.yml
of a plugin. So it has no effect in this case.)Priority (what we know)
So basically, I know the follow priorities, based on the configuration and the wiki article on https://luckperms.net/wiki/Advanced-Setup as well as my own experience with Minecraft permission systems, especially with LuckPerms:
test.*
>test
(because it is more detailed)test.a
>test.*
(because it is more detailed)test.a.*
>test.*
(because it is more detailed)TRUE
] > negative permission [FALSE
] (older version of LP had an option for thisapply-default-negated-permissions-before-wildcards
)weight.30
>weight.20
>weight.10
1 hour
> non-temporary permission for1 day
The article https://luckperms.net/wiki/Advanced-Setup is a good documentation, but it doesn't describe the order of the checks. What happens if I combine two or more of these points (for example: temporary GLOBAL permission for
1 hour
vs. temporary PLAYER permission for1 day
)?Some suggestions for existing wiki articles
https://luckperms.net/wiki/Configuration#meta-value-selection-default and https://luckperms.net/wiki/Configuration#meta-value-selection
I think they need improved descriptions: Is
max-homes
an example-permission likemax-homes.<number>
or a meta value like a prefix / expiration time? Maybe first write a definition ofmeta value
and a link to https://luckperms.net/wiki/Meta-Commands or similar would be useful.https://luckperms.net/wiki/Configuration#apply-bukkit-attachment-permissions
I think you should reference the
player.addAttachment();
method in the description to make it more clear what you mean with "are able to add their own »permission attachment« to players".Ideas for the wiki articles
Advanced-Setup
(= Shorthand Permissions, Regex, Wildcards) andPermission Calculation
and sort both to "Features".The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: