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Titles as part of narrative need to be moved in front of parenthetical citation #136

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njbart opened this issue Jun 1, 2015 · 3 comments

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njbart commented Jun 1, 2015

Where the title of a bibliographic item “appears in the text” (Chicago), or “is part of the narrative” (APA) instead of the author, whether dictated by necessity (anonymous works) or convention (movies), this title has to be moved outside of the parentheses.

Example: “North by Northwest (1959) is a spy thriller film.” rather than “(North by Northwest 1959) is a spy thriller film.”

See Chicago Manual of Style, 16e, 15.24; APA manual, 6e, 6.11; and discussions at https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups&hl=en#!topic/pandoc-discuss/XxBP9rRLyVM and #118.

Example:

pandoc -F pandoc-citeproc -t plain << EOT

# Text

@nbn is a spy thriller film.

# References

---
csl: chicago-author-date.csl
references:
- id: nbn
  type: motion-picture
  director:
  - family: Hitchcock
    given: Alfred
  issued:
  - year: 1959
  title: North by Northwest
  publisher: Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
  publisher-place: USA
  language: en-US
...

EOT

Actual output:

TEXT

(_North by Northwest_ 1959) is a spy thriller film.

REFERENCES

_North by Northwest_. 1959. Directed by Alfred Hitchcock. USA:
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.

Expected output:

TEXT

_North by Northwest_ (1959) is a spy thriller film.

REFERENCES

_North by Northwest_. 1959. Directed by Alfred Hitchcock. USA:
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.
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jgm commented Jan 3, 2018

I note that the current actual output is Hitchcock (1959).

What is supposed to determine whether e.g. a director gets listed in this way? You said it was by convention that the title of the film is used. Is this something that can be set in a CSL file, or is it hard-coded?

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njbart commented Jan 4, 2018

At the time of my original post, chicago-author-date.csl was not able to handle directors as primary creators (this was changed in Oct 2015), so the “actual output” in June 2015 was as reported above.

And though my impression is that citing movies by title+year is rather popular, CMoS actually calls for citing them by director+year – so the current actual output seems ok.

For anonymous works, however, the problem persists (this example from CMoS 16e, 14.79):

pandoc -F pandoc-citeproc -t plain << EOT

# Text

@stanze is an anonymous work.

# References

---
csl: chicago-author-date.csl
references:
- id: stanze
  type: book
  issued:
  - year: 1547
  title: Stanze in lode della donna brutta
  publisher-place: Florence
  language: it-IT
...
EOT

Actual output:

(_Stanze in lode della donna brutta_ 1547) is an anonymous work.

Expected:

_Stanze in lode della donna brutta_ (1547) is an anonymous work.

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jgm commented Sep 10, 2020

This works in the citeproc branch of pandoc.
Added test case.

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