diff --git a/.circleci/.force_rebuild b/.circleci/.force_rebuild
index 281edca01..00a4c758e 100644
--- a/.circleci/.force_rebuild
+++ b/.circleci/.force_rebuild
@@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
 # modify this file to force circleci to rebuild
-2024-02-08.2
+2025-02-13.1
diff --git a/Gemfile b/Gemfile
index 7994deca1..e243cd7aa 100644
--- a/Gemfile
+++ b/Gemfile
@@ -162,9 +162,6 @@ gem "nokogiri", ">= 1.13.6"
 
 gem "okcomputer", "~> 1.18.4"
 
-# Read PDF ToC
-gem 'origami'
-
 # Force epub search results to be sentences
 gem 'pragmatic_segmenter', '~> 0.3'
 
diff --git a/Gemfile.lock b/Gemfile.lock
index 4a0d780a7..5fb73ddb5 100644
--- a/Gemfile.lock
+++ b/Gemfile.lock
@@ -226,7 +226,6 @@ GEM
       execjs
     coffee-script-source (1.12.2)
     colorator (1.1.0)
-    colorize (0.8.1)
     commonjs (0.2.7)
     concurrent-ruby (1.2.3)
     config (5.1.0)
@@ -741,8 +740,6 @@ GEM
     openurl (1.0.0)
       marc
       scrub_rb (~> 1.0)
-    origami (2.1.0)
-      colorize (~> 0.7)
     orm_adapter (0.5.0)
     os (1.1.4)
     ostruct (0.6.0)
@@ -1302,7 +1299,6 @@ DEPENDENCIES
   oauth
   oauth2 (~> 1.2)
   okcomputer (~> 1.18.4)
-  origami
   pragmatic_segmenter (~> 0.3)
   prawn (~> 2.2)
   pry-rails
diff --git a/lib/pdf_ebook.rb b/lib/pdf_ebook.rb
index afc7e561d..23580c97c 100644
--- a/lib/pdf_ebook.rb
+++ b/lib/pdf_ebook.rb
@@ -36,11 +36,6 @@ def self.configure
   end
 end
 
-#
-# Require Dependencies
-#
-require 'origami'
-
 #
 # Require Relative
 #
diff --git a/lib/pdf_ebook/publication.rb b/lib/pdf_ebook/publication.rb
index 88051a955..11fef1229 100644
--- a/lib/pdf_ebook/publication.rb
+++ b/lib/pdf_ebook/publication.rb
@@ -1,17 +1,15 @@
 # frozen_string_literal: true
 
-require "skylight"
+require 'open3'
 
 module PDFEbook
   class Publication
-    include Skylight::Helpers
     private_class_method :new
-    attr_reader :id
+    attr_reader :id, :path, :outlines
 
     # Class Methods
     def self.from_path_id(path, id)
-      file = File.new(path)
-      new(file, id)
+      new(path, id)
     rescue StandardError => e
       ::PDFEbook.logger.info("Publication.from_path_id(#{path},#{id}) raised #{e} #{e.backtrace.join("\n")}")
       PublicationNullObject.send(:new)
@@ -19,69 +17,42 @@ def self.from_path_id(path, id)
 
     # Public method
     def intervals
-      @intervals ||= extract_intervals
+      @intervals ||= extract_titles_and_pages(@outlines["outlines"])
     end
 
     private
 
-      instrument_method
-      def initialize(file, id)
-        @pdf = Origami::PDF.read(file, verbosity: Origami::Parser::VERBOSE_QUIET, lazy: true)
-        @id = id
-        @obj_to_page = {}
-      end
-
-      instrument_method
-      def extract_intervals
-        # Map of PDF page object number to a page number (pages start from 1)
-        if @obj_to_page.empty?
-          @pdf.pages.each_with_index do |p, i|
-            @obj_to_page[p.no] = i + 1
+      def extract_titles_and_pages(outlines, depth = 1)
+        intervals = []
+        index = 0
+        outlines.each do |outline|
+          intervals << PDFEbook::Interval.from_title_level_cfi(id, index, outline['title'], depth, "page=#{outline['destpageposfrom1']}")
+          index += 1
+          # Recursively process kids if they exist
+          if outline["kids"].any?
+            intervals.concat(extract_titles_and_pages(outline["kids"], depth + 1))
           end
         end
-        @pdf.Catalog.Outlines.present? ? iterate_outlines(@pdf.Catalog.Outlines[:First]&.solve, 1) : []
+
+        # Add an "overall_index" to each Interval, I don't remember why we're doing this
+        intervals.each_with_index { |interval, i| interval.overall_index = i }
       end
 
-      # Takes Origami::OutlineItem and 1-based depth
-      instrument_method
-      def iterate_outlines(outline, depth) # rubocop:disable Metrics/CyclomaticComplexity, Metrics/PerceivedComplexity
-        intervals = []
-        index = 0
-        until outline.nil?
-          page = nil
-          page = outline&.[](:A)&.solve&.[](:D)
-          # HELIO-3717 some "named destinations" have `:Dest` not `:A` here. The sample I'm looking at is PDF v1.3
-          page ||= outline&.[](:Dest)
+      def initialize(path, id)
+        @id = id
+        @path = path
+        command = "qpdf --json --json-key=outlines #{@path}"
+        stdin, stdout, stderr, wait_thr = Open3.popen3(command)
+        stdin.close
+        stdout.binmode
+        out = stdout.read
+        stdout.close
+        err = stderr.read
+        stderr.close
 
-          if page.is_a?(Origami::Reference) # skips external links
-            begin
-              target = page.solve
-            rescue Origami::InvalidReferenceError
-              outline = outline[:Next]&.solve
-              next
-            end
-            page = target
-          elsif page.is_a?(Origami::LiteralString)
-            # At this point some ToC entries are "named destinations", essentially strings for some...
-            # different type of lookup directory than a page number type destination. See HELIO-3377.
-            page = @pdf.get_destination_by_name(page)
-          end
+        raise StandardError.new "ERROR command: \"#{command}\"\n#{err}" unless wait_thr.value.success?
 
-          page = page&.[](0)&.solve # gets to Origami::Page
-          page ||= outline[:Dest]&.solve&.[](0)&.solve
-          unless page.nil?
-            page_number = @obj_to_page[page.no] || 0
-            # HELIO-4768: very rarely `title` is an `Origami::Reference` at this point, for whatever reason
-            title = outline[:Title].is_a?(Origami::Reference) ? outline[:Title]&.solve : outline[:Title]
-            intervals << PDFEbook::Interval.from_title_level_cfi(id, index, title.to_utf8, depth, "page=#{page_number}")
-            index += 1
-          end
-          unless outline[:First]&.solve.nil? # Child outline
-            intervals += iterate_outlines(outline[:First].solve, depth + 1)
-          end
-          outline = outline[:Next]&.solve
-        end
-        intervals.each_with_index { |interval, i| interval.overall_index = i }
+        @outlines = JSON.parse(out)
       end
   end
 
@@ -95,9 +66,8 @@ def intervals
     private
 
       def initialize
-        @pdf = ''
+        @path = ''
         @id = ''
-        @obj_to_page = {}
       end
   end
 end