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WBP-DPO logical alignment review #141

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matentzn opened this issue Apr 15, 2020 · 4 comments
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WBP-DPO logical alignment review #141

matentzn opened this issue Apr 15, 2020 · 4 comments

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@matentzn
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@Clare72 (FlyBase) has kindly started a review of alignments between DPO and WBP. Here are her notes:

DPO WBPHENOTYPE Label DPO Label WBP Alignment Note
FBcv_0000408 WBPhenotype_0000067 stress response defective organism stress response variant logical does not need to be organism-wide
FBcv_0000409 WBPhenotype_0000876 osmotic stress response defective organism osmotic stress response variant logical does not need to be organism-wide
FBcv_0000410 WBPhenotype_0001273 heat stress response defective organism heat response variant logical does not need to be organism-wide
FBcv_0000683 WBPhenotype_0000146 temperature response defective organism temperature response variant logical does not need to be organism-wide
FBcv_0000725 WBPhenotype_0001620 oxidative stress response defective organism oxidative stress response variant logical does not need to be organism-wide

@chris-grove What do you think? Thanks @Clare72!!

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@matentzn @Clare72
Thanks!
I'll need to look this over in more detail at some point when I get the time. One question is: what does it mean for the stress response to be "defective"? Would increased stress resistance also be considered "defective stress response"? The WBP "stress response variant" terms include (are parents or ancestors of) stress resistance increased terms. The "organism" environment response terms above for WBP are not, according to the logical definition or textual definition, necessarily organism-wide. We do have some cell stress response terms which are specific to a cell's response to stress (more specifically than just the whole organism).

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It depends on how you understand the word defective. I always understood it as a synonym to "abnormal" - so yes, abnormally increased stress response is a defective stress response..

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Clare72 commented Apr 28, 2020

Yes, in dpo 'defective' is synonymous with 'abnormal' - any deviation from control/wild-type. I am considering changing our term labels at some point if all other phenotype ontologies prefer 'abnormal' and if 'defective' is causing confusion.

Ok, if "organism" in the labels does not mean "organism-wide" then I think these phenotypes are correctly matched, just wanted to flag it to check.

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In WBP we have terms for "variant/abnormal" and separately subclass terms that have "defective". I think to worm biologists, "defective" means unable to function or complete the process or do so as effectively as wild type/control/normal. So, we wouldn't consider increased efficacy as "defective". This comes back to the whole "defective" pattern I was trying to create before and I still need to address our "defective" terms and finding appropriate patterns for them.

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