2.x: emitting nulls from Observable.create()

[marcin-kozinski]

It is not possible right now to create an observable that emits nulls using Observable.create(). Emitter's javadoc states @param value the value to signal, not null and in fact when I tried calling emitter.onNext(null) it is checked at runtime and results in a NullPointerException.

Can I get any insight as to why this decision has been taken? And why only in this place, as I believe it is still possible to emit null via for example Observable.just()?

It is a fairly common pattern when you want an observable that emits multiple "events" that don't carry any data. Usually then you create an Observable<Void> and emit nulls in onNext(). For example this is what I tried to write to get an observable of clicks on a view in Android (while @JakeWharton 's RxBinding doesn't have a 2.x release):

public static Observable<Void> clicks(final View view) {
    return Observable.create(emitter -> {
        MainThreadDisposable.verifyMainThread();

        view.setOnClickListener(ignored -> emitter.onNext(null)); // causes NullPointerException at runtime

        emitter.setDisposable(new MainThreadDisposable() {
            @Override
            protected void onDispose() {
                view.setOnClickListener(null);
            }
        });
    });
}

Should I use a different way of creating such observable? Or is there a different pattern altogether for this use case in 2.x?

[akarnokd]

We adopted the Reactive-Streams style of value management which forbids using nulls in the sequences. Use Object instead and emit anything:

public static Observable<Object> clicks(final View view) {
    return Observable.create(emitter -> {
        MainThreadDisposable.verifyMainThread();

        view.setOnClickListener(ignored -> emitter.onNext(ignored)); // works fine

        emitter.setDisposable(new MainThreadDisposable() {
            @Override
            protected void onDispose() {
                view.setOnClickListener(null);
            }
        });
    });
}

[vanniktech]

How about providing a class in RxJava itself which basically provides that ignored value class?

[akarnokd]

Java has a fantastic built-in type and instance that you can ignore at your will: (Integer)1.

[VictorAlbertos]

I agree with @vanniktech. I think that providing a RxJava type which express this intent will lead to more consistent apis.

Because @akarnokd you have suggested to use an Integer/Object, but I was thinking in creating my own Type, like a wrapper for Void, something like Result<Void>.

So I suggest that we should create a new RxJava Type or at least set from now on an official way to deal with this situation.

[JakeWharton]

I do not think this is RxJava's responsibility. Kotlin has Unit and with
Java you have just Object and literally anything. If the point of these
Observables is that the value doesn't matter why are we so concerned about
having a standard value?

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016, 8:42 AM Víctor Albertos notifications@github.com
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I agree with @vanniktech https://github.com/vanniktech. I think that
providing a RxJava type which express this intent will lead to more
consistent apis.

Because @akarnokd https://github.com/akarnokd you have suggested to use
an Integer/Object, but I was thinking in creating my own Type, like a
wrapper for Void, something like Result.

So I suggest that we should create a new RxJava Type or at least set from
now on an official way to deal with this situation.

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[VictorAlbertos]

Precisely, to make completely clear that the value doesn't matter without needing to check the docs.

@JakeWharton, what are you planning to do regarding this matter for RxBinding? Will be Observable<Object>instead of Observable<Void>?

[JakeWharton]

Probably

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Precisely, to make completely clear that the value doesn't matter without
needing to check the docs.

@JakeWharton https://github.com/JakeWharton, what are you planning to
do regarding this matter for RxBinding? Will be Observableinstead
of Observable?

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[pakoito]

Not worth adding to the RxJava 2 branch, but I suspect I'll end up using something similar to this in my client libraries:

public final class Ignore {
  private final Ignore(){}

  public static final Ignore GET = new Ignore();
}

Just because I want to encode the behaviour as a type and it always succeeds equality checks as Void did, even if the cost is a tiny bit higher than using any other constant.

[VictorAlbertos]

I think more users are going to feel this gap too, and they will eventually create his own type. Indeed, I'm thinking to create something like that for my own libraries and client code.

But it would be better if someone with enought reputation/popularity -like @JakeWharton or @akarnokd - created a library to fill this gap.

[akarnokd]

I'm a bit fed up with all these reactive types because each new one shamed out of me doubles the work I have to do for free and overtime. There are infinite amount of base reactive types possible with all sorts of property combinations, no-valued types, multi-valued onNext, with or without backpressure, multiple onErrors, etc.

[JakeWharton]

JetBrains (extremely reputable and popular) already created a library
called kotlin-runtime that has Unit and Unit.INSTANCE!

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I think more users are going to feel this gap too, and they will
eventually create his own type. Indeed, I'm thinking to create something
like that for my own libraries and client code.

But it would be better if someone with enought reputation/popularity -like
@JakeWharton https://github.com/JakeWharton or @akarnokd
https://github.com/akarnokd - created a library to fill this gap.

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[abersnaze]

@akarnokd I don't think the Ignore class was intended to be new reactive type. I think it was intended to be non null replacement for the Void type so code that uses Observable<Void> could be changed to Observable<Ignore> when using 2.x.

[akarnokd]

It's the same problem as with Pairs, Tuples and function combinators; we don't use them in the library and would just clutter the namespaces for projects which use something else anyway. You can use your own 'ignored' type as you see fit.

public enum MyIgnored {
   PLEASE_IGNORE_ANY_VALUE_OF_ME;
}

[vietj]

I understand how a stream of null values can be emitted using a type that represents null.

I don't understand how a stream of values that might have null instance emitted should be handled without loosing type safety as Java does not handle union types.

[akarnokd]

@vietj Use Optional<T>.

[vietj]

@akarnokd seems the best alternative indeed