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Presentation of Plains Cree declination/conjugation classes (i.e. NA[D]-[1-5], VTA-[1-5]) #101

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aarppe opened this issue Jun 20, 2019 · 4 comments
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aarppe commented Jun 20, 2019

Instead of the linguistic codes such as NA-1, NA-2, VTA-1, VTA-2, etc., we could present example/model verbs and nouns to indicate how the noun or verb is inflected.

Ideally, one would use such example verbs which are used in instruction - on the university level, we could base these on Arok's paradigms.

These could implemented by selecting examples for each (which could e.g. be gleaned from Arok's model paradigms). For instance, using Arok's older inflectional/conjugational classes, these could be:

[note that these inflectional subtypes have changed - see comment later below]
VII-v: mihkwâw
VII-n: miywasin
VAI-v: nipâw
VAI-n: pimisin
VTI-1: nâtam
VTI-2: kîsihtâw
VTI-3: mîciw
VTA-1: wîcihêw
VTA-2: nitonawêw
VTA-3: kîskiswêw
VTA-4: nakatêw
VTA-5: ?

Crucially, we could just as well use any other exemplary verbs, but for now we have to select some set that we ourselves consider meaningful.

As for presentation, instead of showing a lexical entry as is currently the case:

  1. askihtakwâw (Verb: VII-v)

... one would instead firstly show the following:

  1. askihtakwâw (Verb: mihkwâw)

... or:

  1. askihtakwâw (Verb: like mihkwâw)

  2. askihtakwâw (like mihkwâw)

... and hovering over tâpiskôc would give VII-v/n of whatever inflectional subclass the lexical entry would belong to.

The nêhiyawêwin alternative to 3/4 above would be to use tâpiskôc, so:

4b. askihtakwâw (tâpiskôc: mihkwâw)

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@aarppe aarppe changed the title Presentation of Plain Cree declination/conjugation classes (i.e. NA-[1-5], VTA-[1-5]) Presentation of Plain Cree declination/conjugation classes (i.e. NA[D]-[1-5], VTA-[1-5]) Oct 26, 2019
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@eddieantonio just a reminder while I'm browsing issues. This is easily achievable, now that our Wordform model class has a full-lc field which records exactly the declination class.

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aarppe commented Mar 27, 2020

Important N.B. to whomever implements this - The plain English example words should be found in the file crk.altlabel.tsv.

Ideally, this would be configurable so that the user can decide with of the representations of the inflectional classes they see. And this selection might be tied with some other or meta-choices, such as a linguistic (VTA-1) or non-linguistic mode (like: wîcihêw).

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aarppe commented Apr 20, 2020

@Madoshakalaka @kobexamoh I've updated crk.altlabel.tsv to conform with the latest AEW inflectional subtype classification.

This means that the representation of the inflectional subtype should now be doable. We could present the plain English relabeling in conjunction with the dictionary entry heads, e.g. like: nipâw for VAI-1, or also show that with the general word class, e.g. Verb, like: nipâw for VAI-1.

@aarppe aarppe changed the title Presentation of Plain Cree declination/conjugation classes (i.e. NA[D]-[1-5], VTA-[1-5]) Presentation of Plains Cree declination/conjugation classes (i.e. NA[D]-[1-5], VTA-[1-5]) Apr 30, 2020
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aarppe commented Jun 11, 2020

While this is the original issue on the topic and provides a good overview of the options, it is also somewhat outdated due to later development decisions and our better understanding of the matter, and is better and more comprehensively explained in #445.

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