MSC2409: Proposal to send typing, presence and receipts to appservices #2409

Sorunome · 2020-01-14T16:16:43Z

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This MSC is a continuation of MSC1888 and thus deprecates it.

Implementations:

SDKs
Bridges
- https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc
- (and other matrix-appservice-bridges generally have support like Slack)
Homeservers
- Send some ephemeral events to appservices synapse#8437
- Send to-device messages to application services synapse#11215

Signed-off-by: Sorunome mail@sorunome.de

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ericmigi · 2020-02-26T23:40:13Z

bumping this up as it would help out of a ton of mx-puppet-slack users! :)

MRAAGH · 2020-03-03T11:11:27Z

I really miss this while using mx-puppet-discord. Typing notifications add so much extra value to a chat!

auscompgeek · 2020-03-21T13:08:31Z

It seems to me that it would be worth making appservices opt into receiving EDUs to avoid pushing EDUs to an appservice that doesn't care about them.

Half-Shot · 2020-03-21T17:25:08Z

@auscompgeek would be even better if appservices could add a filter to their registration data to filter out anything they don't care about.

Sorunome · 2020-04-03T16:00:06Z

@Half-Shot maybe in general add the filter object to the registration file? That way PDUs could also be filtered. That sounds like it should be a separate MSC, though

Half-Shot · 2020-04-03T16:01:38Z

@Half-Shot maybe in general add the filter object to the registration file? That way PDUs could also be filtered. That sounds like it should be a separate MSC, though

It was one from a while ago, but we dropped at the time as the performance gains from doing so weren't worth it.

Sorunome · 2020-04-03T16:02:53Z

@Half-Shot maybe in general add the filter object to the registration file? That way PDUs could also be filtered. That sounds like it should be a separate MSC, though

It was one from a while ago, but we dropped at the time as the performance gains from doing so weren't worth it.

Does it sound worthy to bring that up again, in relation with this MSC, and then leave filtering to, well, the filters?

Half-Shot · 2020-04-03T16:05:42Z

Yup. I think it's worth noting that we might need filters, but at this point I think that's a seperate concern. This MSC is facilitating the ability for ASes to recieve EDU traffic, another MSC can handle filtering of that traffic.

proposals/2409-appservice-edus.md

Half-Shot · 2020-10-01T13:25:57Z

Implementing backend at matrix-org/synapse#8437 (available in 1.22.0)
Implementing bridge side at matrix-org/matrix-appservice-node#32 (available in 0.6.0)

tulir · 2020-10-18T11:20:47Z

mautrix-python impl: mautrix/python@ee74e17

anoadragon453

Just some small polish, but overall LGTM!

proposals/2409-appservice-edus.md

Co-authored-by: Andrew Morgan <1342360+anoadragon453@users.noreply.github.com>

proposals/2409-appservice-edus.md

mscbot · 2024-10-23T11:44:55Z

🔔 This is now entering its final comment period, as per the review above. 🔔

mscbot · 2024-10-28T11:45:06Z

The final comment period, with a disposition to merge, as per the review above, is now complete.

subsequent review addressed concerns, I believe

* Initial proposal commit * Add body of proposal * rename file * finish up MSC * address issues * change key names and add unstable prefix * Clarifications; to-device handling * It's not exactly like sync * Move to-device messages * Copy edu_type behaviour * Add full transaction example * Add implementation notes for to-device cleanup * Use type instead of edu_type to match realities of implementations * Add note to say ephemeral can be omitted. * Improve wording on why we use a seperate array. Co-authored-by: Kevin Cox <kevincox@kevincox.ca> * push_ephemeral -> receive_ephemeral * Fix some typos and clarify EDU room association * Clarify EDU formatting * Explicitly list all event types * Delete to-device events to be moved to a new MSC * Update spec link and fix typo Co-authored-by: Patrick Cloke <clokep@users.noreply.github.com> * Add private read receipt rules * Apply suggestions from code review Co-authored-by: Richard van der Hoff <1389908+richvdh@users.noreply.github.com> * Wrap lines * Apply suggestions from code review Co-authored-by: Andrew Morgan <1342360+anoadragon453@users.noreply.github.com> * Explicitly mention to-device events are not here * Mention the possibility of more granular filtering --------- Co-authored-by: Will Hunt <will@half-shot.uk> Co-authored-by: Travis Ralston <travisr@matrix.org> Co-authored-by: Kevin Cox <kevincox@kevincox.ca> Co-authored-by: Tulir Asokan <tulir@maunium.net> Co-authored-by: Patrick Cloke <clokep@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Richard van der Hoff <1389908+richvdh@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Andrew Morgan <1342360+anoadragon453@users.noreply.github.com>

zecakeh · 2024-11-28T16:30:57Z

spec PR: matrix-org/matrix-spec#2018

richvdh · 2024-12-11T22:43:32Z

merged!

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Stabilize MSC2409 (Send typing, presence and receipts to appservices) element-hq/synapse#17881

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