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  • make -j4 test (UNIX), or vcbuild test (Windows) passes
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There is nothing controversial about serial commas and there is no need
to hedge bets on it. Simply instruct people to use serial commas.
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LGTM
Don't think this needs to wait 48 hours

@MylesBorins MylesBorins added the fast-track PRs that do not need to wait for 48 hours to land. label Nov 29, 2017
@@ -75,6 +75,6 @@

[Em dashes]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash#Em_dash
[Javascript type]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Guide/Grammar_and_types#Data_structures_and_types
[Oxford comma]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma
[serial commas]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma
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Pretty outraged about this change 😉 .

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gibfahn commented Nov 29, 2017

Considered a patriotic -1 on behalf of the Oxford comma, but decided against it.

There is nothing controversial about serial commas

This is a bold statement, I'm sure there are people who are fanatically against them.

I think it makes things clearer though, so +1.

Chance of a lint rule for it?

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LGTM

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FYI nodejs/docs@a7e0208#diff-4076ed6a9f68805586fe892fab2c17ceR125 introduced the sentence about being controversial.

FWIW I personally prefer not to use serial commas, but this PR isn't changing the guideline so approving based on implementing consistency with the recommended style.

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Trott commented Dec 1, 2017

Chance of a lint rule for it?

Unfortunately, not a reliable one. Even robust grammar-checking software has trouble reliably flagging missing serial commas. In some situations, it's impossible to know if a comma is or isn't needed unless you know the meaning of the sentence. Consider, for example, "It was Gibson, a Node.js contributor and an all-around decent human." Without understanding the intended meaning of the sentence, a checker wouldn't know whether contributor needs a comma after it or not.

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There is no need to hedge bets on the serial comma. Simply instruct
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Trott commented Dec 1, 2017

Landed in d2b2baf and ff9a6bc.

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