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Are channels other than apu1 and apu2 being quiet in multichip modules intended? #213

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trashbinenthusiast opened this issue May 11, 2023 · 10 comments · Fixed by #214
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@trashbinenthusiast
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This is what i have to do to make all channels sound even: https://i.imgur.com/8GHmxRn.png
This was the problem when 0.5.0.0 came out, and it still is, hardware mixing box doesn't fix anything. It has been reported before on FT discord, and multiple people have said the same as well. 0.4.0.1 does not have this problem.

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It's been a while. But I recall the "quieting" of multiple channels with multiple chips is automatically done to prevent clipping. I personally don't agree with the feature, and it makes mixing absolutely irritating, but if I recall correctly, that's why it was done.

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the channels are attenuated depending on the amount of chips enabled. this behavior has been unchanged since FT 0.4.6

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can you provide .wav exports for comparison? also, what build are you using?

@trashbinenthusiast
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trashbinenthusiast commented May 30, 2023

can you provide .wav exports for comparison? also, what build are you using?

I've used 0cc 0.3.15.3 in the past and I've been using Dn-FT 0.4.0.1 for a while. They do not have this problem. Also, i was the first user to point this out many months ago on ft discord, but nothing has changed since then at all. Perhaps i'll stick to 0.4.0.1 then.

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trashbinenthusiast commented May 30, 2023

It's been a while. But I recall the "quieting" of multiple channels with multiple chips is automatically done to prevent clipping. I personally don't agree with the feature, and it makes mixing absolutely irritating, but if I recall correctly, that's why it was done.

I really don't get it. Why even have multichip support if you cripple that functionality by doing that? There should be a togglable option instead of forcing it like that. I'm still using 0.4.0.1 because of it.

@Gumball2415
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this functionality is as old as multichip itself, if you don't like it, go back to vanilla

@nyanpasu64
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Can you supply a test module, which sounds different in different versions of Dn?

@trashbinenthusiast
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this functionality is as old as multichip itself, if you don't like it, go back to vanilla

I've been using famitracker for more than 10 years, and not at a single point ever had i encountered such extreme case of channel imbalance until the last version of Dn-FT. Yes, the channels do get quieter the more chips you add, but it's the first time I'm seeing 2a03 being so much louder than the rest. It seems you either misunderstand me or just don't care about this issue at all.

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Can you supply a test module, which sounds different in different versions of Dn?

Literally every single vrc6 + mmc5 module i have.

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I will continue this discussion on discord, it's easier to post examples in it.

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