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Possible legal infringement? #104

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erickwilder opened this issue Mar 12, 2018 · 9 comments
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Possible legal infringement? #104

erickwilder opened this issue Mar 12, 2018 · 9 comments
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erickwilder commented Mar 12, 2018

Hello @AlexMost

I've been looking for some ways to do translations using a similar workflow as I'm used to with GNU gettext in other environments (e.g: Python, PHP, Ruby) and I think c3po could find a very good balance between supporting it and also putting JS first.

I have a question and I hope you don't mind that I'm using this space here in the issue tracking for that. I also want to give a fair warning that it might be a bit controversial, but I do so in good faith.

Does the name of the library can cause any possible future legal action?
I really liked the name, just to be clear. It's awesome. But my concerns about it are towards possible, future legal actions that it might have. I'm not a lawyer, but I guess that some of the people at Disney would not be pleased to see both the name of the character (C3PO) and the picture of it in the organization profile.
I'm asking this because every open source project I intend to use/support I do with a hope they'll be there for many years and that I could safely recommend in my work environment - which is not the case here. Unfortunately, as the gray areas appear on any legal aspects, most companies tend to be in the safe side. In this case, it is not adopting a great library like this one.

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AlexMost commented Mar 12, 2018

Hello @erickwilder!

Thanks for the good words and your warning! The library already has some happy users and we are going to support it. So, it makes perfect sense to discuss what we can do, to prevent possible legal infringement and to make this library more attractive to adopt and contribute.

From this point we can:

  1. Discuss this issue with a lawyer (going to do that tomorrow, and share the results here).
  2. Think about renaming the project and about the smooth migration to the new name/package/org.

Feel free to share your ideas here! I am really glad that you like this library.

What do you think @MrOrz @vharitonsky @Alxpy @tlrobinson ?

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MrOrz commented Mar 13, 2018

+1 for the active and positive advice.

Since project names that is as safe as "Jade" changed their name when needed, it would be great if we figure this out early and take actions when necessary.

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Nice! I'm looking forward to it.

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AlexMost commented Mar 13, 2018

I have discussed this issue with lawyers in our company and they also recommended to think about the different name for the project. The main reason is that there is an official trademark with this name (you can check it here - http://www.wipo.int/madrid/monitor/en/ ). So, thanks again @erickwilder.

So, for now, we can start thinking about the new name for the project. I was thinking about that for some time, and all those names like translation, localization, i18n e.t.c are a little bit boring. So, my expectations from the new name are:

  • short (3 - 5 characters).
  • does not contain translation, localization, i18n in it's name.
  • there should be no existing trademark with that name.
  • available package name on the npm.

Looking forward for your ideas :)

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There is already a software product called c3p0: http://www.mchange.com/projects/c3p0/

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There are a couple of websites with very useful trademark information that's focused at open source projects:

The ASF has a detailed procedure for how they vet new names proposed for Apache projects - their goals may be subtly different than yours, but it may be useful to read through the "Research" steps to take when vetting a new project name. (Tip: it's really helpful to do this yourself before you talk to the lawyer - often saves legal time!)

https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming#namesearch

Good luck!

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@ShaneCurcuru thanks a lot!

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Are you open to suggestions for new names? If so, should we do this on this issue or open a new one?

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@erickwilder for sure we are open for the new names. Here is a separate issue for that - #105

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